{"id":1572,"date":"2014-11-24T09:00:25","date_gmt":"2014-11-24T08:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/?p=1572"},"modified":"2015-03-17T11:14:10","modified_gmt":"2015-03-17T10:14:10","slug":"economic-growth-v-s-environmental-impact","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/2014\/11\/24\/economic-growth-v-s-environmental-impact\/","title":{"rendered":"Economic Growth v.s. Co2"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_1598\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1598\" style=\"width: 630px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/news\/politics\/chinese-president-meets-press-won-respond-article-1.2008022\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1598 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/files\/2014\/11\/Obama-and-Xi-Jingping-e1416825446726.jpg\" alt=\"Barak Obama and Xi Jingping | China and US agreement | Mike Rosenberg | IESE\" width=\"630\" height=\"289\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/files\/2014\/11\/Obama-and-Xi-Jingping-e1416825446726.jpg 630w, https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/files\/2014\/11\/Obama-and-Xi-Jingping-e1416825446726-300x137.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/files\/2014\/11\/Obama-and-Xi-Jingping-e1416825446726-624x286.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1598\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Barak Obama and Xi Jingping. Source: Daily News.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Barak Obama<\/strong> and<strong> Xi Jinping signed a landmark deal<\/strong> a couple of weeks ago committing both the United States and China to a roadmap which will, according to the University of Chicago&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/articles\/health_and_science\/science\/2014\/11\/obama_s_u_s_china_climate_agreement_carbon_budget_and_exponential_curves.2.html\">Raymond Pierrehumbert<\/a>,\u00a0<strong>keep the world on the safe side of 1,000 gigotons of\u00a0cumulative carbon in the atmosphere<\/strong> and thus below a 2 degree increase in average temperature.<\/p>\n<p>While the science is complex and the politics even more so,<strong> the good news is that the two largest emitters who failed to sign the Kyoto agreement are, at least, talking about the issues involved and making commitments to deal with the problem<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Political issues<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>In the United States, <strong>President Obama has already run afoul of very powerful interests in supporting cleaner natural gas against coal<\/strong> and as discussed in a <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/2014\/06\/09\/obama-will-now-focus-on-climate-change\/#sthash.FC2rzT3B.dpbs\">post<\/a> concerning a\u00a0speech Obama made in West point back in June, this president is actually doing something about the issue!<\/p>\n<p>The new Republican majority in the U.S. congress and Senate will do its best to roll back some of the gains that have been made but my guess (or hope) is the presidential\u00a0election of 2016 will bring back a democratic\u00a0majority and keep the United States on the current path to hold emissions to 2005 levels or lower.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2014\/11\/12\/us-china-usa-climatechange-mcconnell-idUSKCN0IW1TZ20141112\">criticism<\/a> of the deal in the U.S. is that China does not have to begin lowering carbon emissions until 2030<\/strong> but the fact\u00a0is that\u00a0<strong>even peaking in 2030 will require a huge effort for China to effectively plan its transition to a low carbon economy<\/strong>. The issue at the core of the most serious discussion is whether the Chinese can be trusted to actually live up to the deal.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1575\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1575\" style=\"width: 284px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/files\/2014\/11\/download.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1575\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/files\/2014\/11\/download.jpeg\" alt=\"Telegraph.co.uk\" width=\"284\" height=\"177\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1575\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Telegraph.co.uk<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In China, Slates&#8217;s \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/blogs\/the_world_\/2014\/11\/12\/china_u_s_emissions_deal_terrifying_air_pollution_forced_chinese_leaders.html\">Joshua Keating<\/a> makes the point, with which I agree, that <strong>China agreed to the deal because it has to add more renewable and cleaner energy to its mix in order to limit air pollution<\/strong>. Any government, even a dictatorship, only governs with the consent of its people and as the Chinese people become more affluent, they like others before them will demand clean air, \u00a0water and safe food.<\/p>\n<h3>\u00a0<strong>Who gets to grow?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1574\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1574\" style=\"width: 218px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/files\/2014\/11\/sunita_narain.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1574\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/files\/2014\/11\/sunita_narain.jpg\" alt=\"Sunita Narain\" width=\"218\" height=\"163\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1574\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sunita Narain<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The other big issue is that economic growth requires energy and energy, at least conventionally, produces carbon. As explained in very clear terms by India&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.business-standard.com\/article\/opinion\/sunita-narain-the-bad-china-us-climate-deal-114112300758_1.html\">Sunita Narain<\/a>, the essence of the US &#8211; China deal is to get both countries on the same per capita carbon output at her estimate of 12-14 tons per person per year based on the U.S. reducing and China growing.<\/p>\n<p>Ms. Narain&#8217;s point is that <strong>if both the U.S. and China produce carbon at that level, then the rest of the world will have to\u00a0be much, much lower and countries like India will simply not be able to grow economically using conventional technology.<\/strong> In many ways her article in the <a title=\"Business Standard\" href=\"http:\/\/www.business-standard.com\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Business Standard<\/em><\/a> is a response to an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/11\/18\/world\/coal-rush-in-india-could-tip-balance-on-climate-change.html?_r=0\">article<\/a> by Gardiner Harris in the <a title=\"New York Times\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\" target=\"_blank\"><em>New York Times<\/em><\/a> that talks about the current coal boom in India and\u00a0appears to argue for India to take a more expensive renewable path for its economic development.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The bigger issue is if the world will, in fact, get together on a comprehensive climate deal <\/strong>in the next few years<strong> and is the agreement between the US and China is a good first step\u00a0in this process or, in a fact a side deal<\/strong>, between the two largest carbon emitters<strong> to make their own situation a fait accompli for the rest of the world to swallow<\/strong>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Barak Obama and Xi Jinping signed a landmark deal which is either be a good first step or a cynical deal between the world&#8217;s largest emitters &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":788,"featured_media":1578,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[419,588],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1572","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-climate-change","category-energy","megacategoria-mc-strategy"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1572","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/788"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1572"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1572\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1602,"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1572\/revisions\/1602"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1578"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1572"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1572"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.iese.edu\/doing-business\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1572"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}